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March 10, 2009



It's telling that the paper even published the letter.

Castor Troye

It is funny how the Muslim community, spearheaded by Mahmud in Iran run a dual track of anti-Zionism and Holocaust denial. Both are anti-semitic in essence. The reason why Muslims have taken to such conspiracy theories with vigor is because the version of a victim Jew does not fit their definition of a Zionist Machine. When dealing with such a huge calamity of mankind, they don't know how to empathise with their enemies so why not just label the whole thing as a hoax?

Similarly, with 9/11 (although I would never compare it to the Holocaust) Muslims could not take responsibility for the evil behind it so their only rationale is to create Muslims as the victims of Islamophobia and the true villains behind 9/11 as the Zionist machine.


There is a more sinister and superficially more sophisticated tack re 9-11, that is admitting that Muslim extremists carried out the attack, but then saying they only carried it out because of US foreign policy ie support for Israel. In other words if it wasn't for Israel, Muslim extremists would not have felt impelled to carry out 9-11. This kind of idiotic, absurd and deranged anti-Semitic argument is held disturbingly widely among the Western Left (and the extreme Right), especially in Europe and the UK. But also in North America and of course in SA.

It is this latter kind of anti-Semitism that is really frightening and is just beneath the radar, and represented by the John Pilger and M&G school of journalism, with its avid readership. This is what we need to keep in mind.


Where can I find this documentation that suggests 6 million Jews vanished? Why was the number reduced from 4.4 million to 1.1 at Auschwitz? Why did that have no bearing on the overall figure?
Why did not a single one of those sick, inhuman Nazis take even ONE picture of a single Jew actually being gassed? How come? Maybe becuase its a fable just like the soap and lampshades? Perhaps its a blatant lie just like the countless books and survivor stories that have unraveled faster than a loose ball of yarn?
Where is the documentation source that depicts 6 million missing? I will actually read it all.


I'd suggest a library; German, Polish and Russian archives; and perhaps a bookstore Ryan. There you can find the answers to all your questions.

Those are pretty obvious actually so i'm not sure why you haven't already. Perhaps you're sympathetic to the Nazi cause? In the meantime I suggest

You said you'd read it all so let us know when you are done.


Ryan, you can also read Victims and death toll which has a good break down of the numbers and sources.

There are also pictures and historical documents available at the Auschwitz-Birkenau website. I am not going to browse for the pictures of people being gassed. There are pictures of the gas chambers though.

I am curious though. Where do you get your information and numbers from?


Re: Ryan and questions of gas, there is quote from the well document and recorded at Nuremberg:

Another improvement we made over Treblinka was that we built our gas chambers to accommodate 2,000 people at one time, whereas at Treblinka their 10 gas chambers only accommodated 200 people each. The way we selected our victims was as follows: we had two SS doctors on duty at Auschwitz to examine the incoming transports of prisoners. The prisoners would be marched by one of the doctors who would make spot decisions as they walked by. Those who were fit for work were sent into the Camp. Others were sent immediately to the extermination plants. Children of tender years were invariably exterminated, since by reason of their youth they were unable to work. Still another improvement we made over Treblinka was that at Treblinka the victims almost always knew that they were to be exterminated and at Auschwitz we endeavored to fool the victims into thinking that they were to go through a delousing process. Of course, frequently they realized our true intentions and we sometimes had riots and difficulties due to that fact. Very frequently women would hide their children under the clothes but of course when we found them we would send the children in to be exterminated. We were required to carry out these exterminations in secrecy but of course the foul and nauseating stench from the continuous burning of bodies permeated the entire area and all of the people living in the surrounding communities knew that exterminations were going on at Auschwitz.

– Rudolf Höß, Auschwitz camp commandant, Nuremberg testimony.


I posted this earlier, but it doesn't seem to have come through.

Helps if you can speak German to better navigate the site.

Empress Trudy

If there was no Holocaust then why do the antisemites love Hitler so much. He's kind of piker on those terms.


Ryan, why don't you take a trip to Poland. I suggest in particular a lovely little town called Lublin, where there sits just on its outskirts a holiday village by the name of Majdanek.
Go take a look at the wonderful German ash collection of the approximately 800 000 people that were systematically gassed and cremated there. The pile of ashes is still there, with human bones clearly visible in the pile.
A simple google search I'm certain will provide you with adequate photographic EVIDENCE of what you seek.


Typo in previous post... 800 000 was meant to be 80 000.
Majdanek was one of the smallest of the death camps, and happens to be the most well preserved as the Nazis did not get ample opportunity to destroy their handiwork.


calling Ryan an idiot is the kindest thing one can say about him, Holocaust Deniers are just Nazis and should be called as such. The transcripts of the Nuremberg Nazi War Crimes trial are available in toto online, made available by Harvard University. google it. The thing is with characters like Ryan, facts and evidence have nothing to do with what they want to believe. So they don't let facts get in their way, characters like Ryan are too busy surfing the net checking out their fav Jew-hate websites anyhow.

Ryan you can go on blaming the Jews for your disappointments and frustrations in life, but it's not going to make you any less of a failure.


No, Lawrence, Ryan is probabely not a real Nazi. He is just an attention whore.
He wants a response and to get us to get engage him.
He will say anything for ppl to take notice of him.


Ryan's mother is also his aunty

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