David Saks described the anti-Semitic Deputy Foreign Minister Fatima Hajaig as having forgotten to use the code-word "Zionist" instead of "Jew" in her recent outburst at a COSATU rally in Lenasia. Well, this time, COSATU has also forgotten to use the code-word.
"We want to convey a message to the Jews in SA that our 1.9-million workers who are affiliated to Cosatu are fully behind the people of Palestine," said Cosatu's Bongani Masuku.
"Any business owned by Israel supporters will be a target of workers in South Africa." |
How, pray tell, will COSATU identify the businesses owned by "Israel supporters"? Well, given the overwhelming majority support for Israel amongst South African Jews, the easiest appraoch would be to just boycott all Jewish owned businesses. A Muslim e-mail recently did a good job of listing many of these, though there are tons of small businesses that need to be added to the list.
Another choice quote from the IOL report comes from Ronnie Kasrils. Ever the proffessional, Kasrils remembered to use the code-word.
Ronnie Kasrils, the former minister of intelligence, said the ongoing "butchering" of Palestinians in Gaza was unacceptable.
"What Israel is doing in Gaza is creating concentration camps because people have nowhere to run. It is reprehensible that we have Zionists here who support Israel." |
Given that the overwhelming majority of South African Jews are Zionists, and Kasrils considers it reprehensible that we are here, can we conclude that he wants the majority of Jews to leave South Africa? This from Thabo Mbeki's former Minister of Intelligence. From a man who might still be a parliamentarian. At a rally which has been confirmed as illegal! And remember, there hasn't been much condemnation of the shrieking calls to "Kick the Zionists Out" at the recent COSATU rally in Lenasia.
Should we conclude that other politicians involved in this week-of-action campaign, such as COPE's National Executive Committee member Allan Boesak, support this stance?
This is really serious and leads me back to a very troubling, and I concede, perhaps overly dramatic, question. Is there still a place under the South African sun for a large Jewish presence? Perhaps South Africa will surprise me and politicians, cabinet ministers, leaders of civil society, and influential newspaper editors will come out of the shadows and condemn these remarks. I won't bet on it.
One thing is for certain, our political positions will not be moved. We will remain Zionists steadfast in our support of Israel.
I hereby swear, before Yaweh, on the souls of all my ancestors and all the victims of the Shoah, to always be a staunch Zionist, and I swear to fight to my last breath for Israel to thrive as a sovereign Jewish state, and for its right to determine its own borders and to defend itself as it sees fit.
I also swear to treat all who are hostile to the Jewish State in the Land of Israel, as bitter enemies, and to hate them for all eternity.
Posted by: Gary Selikow | February 08, 2009 at 11:30
Dear Na'eem Jeenah and Jane Duncan,
As you know, I am campaigning for Israel to immediately break diplomatic relations with South Africa. If this happens, COSATU won't have to try and unsuccessfully stop Israeli good from entering South Africa.
In the circumstances, The PSC/ FXI and Cosatu should back my campaign.
I hope I can count on your support.
Posted by: Blacklisted Dictator | February 08, 2009 at 18:44
yes you are correct, you welcome to take this fight to the streets of Lenasia, if you dare!!!
Posted by: Mo | February 08, 2009 at 21:55
Hi Mo,
I don't think taking this fight to the streets of Lenasia would prove anything. I think the point is that it would be a stupid thing to do.
Chill out brother!
Sorry, I meant brother!!!
Posted by: Daniel W | February 08, 2009 at 23:00
Daniel, i like your reply. See it is easy for the Jewish Community to be calling for South AFricans not to bring international problems home but than we need to be consistant and honest with ourselves, why dont we than speak out against South Africans participating in the IDF? The Zionist Federation has made it extremely clear that they support the State of Israel, its occupation of Palestinian authorities and recent crimes in Gaza so than it must logically expect a reaction? Voices raised against Israel are not only Muslim voices but come from a vast array of humanity? my previous reaction was based on the threatening tone of the Blogger! Had it been a Muslim writer he would most certainely have been labeled 'anti semetic', so i ask: is not the blogger insigting hate against Muslims in South AFrica, what can i call him than.....
Posted by: Mo | February 09, 2009 at 10:45
Hello, anyone home Mo? I read that above blog twice and cant see any reference to taking "this fight to the streets of Lenasia"? You are chasing phantoms, but hey it should provide quite a cardio workout ...
Posted by: anonymous | February 09, 2009 at 11:18
Steve ("the blogger") never called on Jews to march in Lenasia.
He said that it would be provocative if they did.
And he also said that almost all Jews support the stance of the SAZF. You are the one perverting that stance.
And voices raised in favour of Israel also come from a variety of different places - not just Jews.
Threatening tone of the blogger? You must be a very nervous man. Exactly what threats were made?
Posted by: Daniel W | February 09, 2009 at 11:23
ok, steve has posed the question if it the time has arrived for "jews' to migrate from RSA. need i answer the question for as Steve mentions " all 70 000 minus 310"
Posted by: Mo | February 09, 2009 at 12:02
Mo I remember that sign up in the Oriental Plaza a couple years back, "No Jews nor dogs allowed". Is it still up?
Mo tell me I'm curious do you believe the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is genuine or not?
Whatever happened to Qibla Mo?
Posted by: Lawrence | February 09, 2009 at 12:34
Mo,
If you could expel all Jews from SA, would you? It would have to include the 310 though. I.e. anyone born Jewish or who has converted, even if they hate Israel like Mr Kasrils.
So you would get rid of the 70 000 - 310 bad ones, but also the 310 good ones.
By the way, the people who write these petitions would be appalled at your answer to Steve's hypothetical question. You have let them down! You have let Nathan Geffen and Doron Isaacs, good Jews, down. You are an embarrassment to them. An embarrassment!!!
Shame on you brother!!!
Arthur Chaskalson would find you guilty of letting him down.
Posted by: Daniel W | February 09, 2009 at 13:05
Nathan Geffen and Doron Isaacs,
I know that "The 318 Jews" are officially deemed to be non-racist. But how can we be sure? Some might have signed your Gaza Petition as a way of securing their SA citizenship. How do we know that they are genuine non-racists?
In the circumstances, you should take no risks. Outwardly they might appear to be Good Jews. But what is really going on inside their Jewish heads and souls?
I reckon, that it will be prudent to re-educate them. There should be a new non-racist cultural revolution. They should be sent deep into The Cape countryside.
Of course leading signatories like yourselves and Messrs Kentridge , Gordimer and Zapiro should be exempt. You etc could be sent to the Kirstenbosch Botanical Gardens or, if living in Joburg, to the Melville Koppies instead.
Posted by: Blacklisted Dictator | February 09, 2009 at 13:10
Is there a difference between Non Zionist Jew and a zionist one?
Would a Non Zionist be totally accepted and respected within the RSA jewish community?
P.S lets make this a serious honarable discussion.
Posted by: Mo | February 09, 2009 at 13:41
Danial, Blacklisted Dictator,Lawrence
Do you all condone the killing of innocent women and children in Gaza?
Do you condone the theft/ expansion of settlements by the removal of palestinians form their land as non whites were removed by the Apartheid regime previously?
Are not Palestinians allowed the right to defend their lives and land from the occupiers? yes even with rockets!
Are you aware that a large number of Palestinians are Christian and NOT Muslim?
Who attempted to crucify Jesus (PBUH)? the Romans were not anywhere near Palestine at that time (historical recorded).
Posted by: Mo | February 09, 2009 at 13:51
Mohammed,
You are very stupid. But I'll entertain your questions. It seems like the more we get out of you the funnier this becomes.
Many Jews in the community are non-Zionist. The Blacklisted Dictator does not define himself as a Zionist in fact. But he still supports Israel's right to exist and to self defence.
Many religious Haredi Jews in SA are also non-Zionist. But they also still support Israel and stand shoulder-to-shoulder with the Zionists when Israel is being attacked.
So you can't call for Zionists to leave. You will be far more accurate just calling for all Jews to leave.
Posted by: Steve | February 09, 2009 at 14:23
Lol, lets get busy.
Mo Serious discussion: you dont deserve one because the definition of serious means cutting out hearsay evidence and objective history.
Posted by: Castor Troye | February 09, 2009 at 14:37
But lets discuss,
Zionist Jews accepted in society? Jews have been at the focal point of developing South Africa. Co-incidentally, 95% of them have been proudly Zionist. Our commitment to South Africa and hard-work has earned that respect - not that we have to justify it to the likes of you, nor are we going to be seen as friends in Fordsburg or Cosatu. Funny how in township slang, calling someone 'ama Jewish' is actually a compliment on the person.
"Are you aware that a large number of Palestinians are Christian and NOT Muslim?" Are you aware that 20% of Israeli citizens are Arabs? Are you aware that in Jordan, a supposedly liberal ME country, you can't be a citizen if you are Jewish. So whats your point?
Who attempted to crucify Jesus...the Romans were not there? Even Mel Gibson, who shares the same views with Hajaig, that the Jews control the world (although Gibson was paraletically drunk when he said it - does not say much for our minister) put Romans in the movie and he essentially blames the Jews for everything.
Seriously, your one claim to the origins of "Palestine" comes from the Latin (that's Roman in case you were unaware) changing of the name of Judea. Next thing you are going to tell me there were no Jews there at the time as well...hmmm no Romans and no Jews back then...that makes for an interesting x-mas movie next holiday season.
Oh I love hearing uneducated conspiracy theories.
Posted by: Castor Troye | February 09, 2009 at 14:55
What's funny is that SA has no problem purchasing Israeli surveillance equipment for those very same ports, as reported in Globes. Israel should bar the sale.
Posted by: Empress Trudy | February 09, 2009 at 15:08
Mo, we have not forgotten the thousands of Jews who have died after 80 years of Arab agression against our people in the Land of Israel (It's not Palestine, it's Israel).
The Jews returned to Israel because it is our ancient land.
Israel and the Jewish people are here to stay, deal with it.
Posted by: Gary Selikow | February 09, 2009 at 15:30
Re: "Am I a Zionist?"
If I was a Zionist I would be living in Israel.
However, as The Turd Millennium proceeds, I am beginning to think that I might have to go and live in Israel to escape the "PC/ Human Rights/ United Nations/Anti-Zionist/ Freedom of Censorship etc" dictatorship. If that happens, I will then officially become a Zionist.
I will also have to brush up on my Hebrew.
For the record, I have lived in Ashkelon for about 6 months in 1980, but I would be a bit wary to live there now due to the rockets from Gaza.
Posted by: Blacklisted Dictator | February 09, 2009 at 18:28
"THE WHOLE WORLD IS TAKING NOTE"
Scorching temperatures and a host of other activities undertaken on Sunday to maintain the mobilization of communities in aid of the Palestinians who have just emerged from a devastating 22-day war, were some of the reasons why the turnout on Sunday at the Vygieskraal stadium was relatively low.
Both VOC reporters and organizers concurred that less than 300 people attended the rally which was organised by the Muslim Judicial Council, Palestine Solidarity Group and the Al Quds Foundation.
The turnout was disappointing low,” VOC news editor Shanaaz Ebrahim reported on Monday. “Organisers had set out 300 chairs, which were not quite filled. We estimate that there were perhaps 250 people. And yet, it was one of the most amazing mass rallies I have ever attended. People who were not there really missed hearing some of the international delegates who are here to attend the MJC conference on Palestine.
Ronnie Kasrils picked up on this point. “Cosatu by its actions has taken the lead in championing the cause of the Palestinian people, together with our Palestinian Solidarity Committee. And the whole world is taking note. When South Africans raise their voices, it adds enormous quality to the quantity of people around the world. "
MJC president Maulana Igsaan Hendricks questioned why the Christian community had been so silent on speaking out on the atrocities committed in Gaza "Our people were supposed to have been here in their thousands, which means we need to do more work. We need to mobilize the foot soldiers, we need to speak to our communities. This is not the time for us to be relaxed. Every minute that we relax, the Zionist profile grows higher. We must make sure that we mobilize in such a way that as the profile of the Zionist goes up, our solidarity goes even higher.”
http://www.vocfm.co.za/public/articles.php?Articleid=44652
Posted by: Blacklisted Dictator | February 09, 2009 at 18:30
IMAGINE. if there'd been social networking in 1930's Germany? What would this blog have sounded like.
Just replace 'Zionist' with a four-lettered word and you pretty much have an idea. And they just DO NOT see, do they? It boggles the mind.
Posted by: ak | August 20, 2011 at 10:51